Black Guys with White Girls
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WHITE WOMEN WITH BLACK MEN AND BIRACIAL CHILDREN
What is going on with all the black guys with white girls?
Going through the airport the other day I was struck by the number of white women with biracial children.
I cannot remember the last time I saw a black woman with a biracial child in tow.
As I rode on the airplane I started thinking about the countless many times I have seen blond, blue eyed girls with black guys in restaurants or malls in the past five years.
And how rare it is to see a black woman with a white guy.
I began to wonder why this is so.
But I can't say I know the answer.
Perhaps my readers do?
Back in my home town I know a number of young white women with several half-black babies from different fathers, none of whom they married or have a relationship with now.
I do not know a single white man with a half-black child.
CELEBRITIES WITH BLACK FATHERS
When I read about celebrities who are bi-racial such as President Obama, Alicia Keys, Derek Jeter, Halle Berry, Jason Kidd, Mariah Carey, Mario Van Peebles, Rick Fox or Vin Diesel—they all have black fathers and white mothers.
I am not saying there are not exceptions.
Of course there are.
But the numbers with black mothers seem miniscule.
BIRACIAL CELEBRITY PHOTOGRAPHS
When I see someone on the news such as the Kobe Bryant scandal, the Steve McNair death story, the OJ Simpson trial; it usually seems to have a white girl in it.
I do not recall ever seeing such a story with a white guy and black girl.
When I see photographs of black athletes out on the town, many have a white girl on their arm.
I do not recall ever once seeing a photograph of a white athlete out on the town with a black girl.
I have seen dozens of famous black men with white wives but I only know of three famous black women married to white men.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
I did an internet search and all I came up with was a theory that black guys are "sticking it to the man by screwing his daughters" and white girls are "rebelling against their parents."
I do recall reading a book about the sixties in which it described Radical Liberal women felt compelled, and in some cases challenged, to have sex with black men to prove they weren't prejudiced.
I remember one of my daughters told me that interracial dating was discussed in school and her teacher said, "If your parents don't want you dating black guys, they are just backward ignorant bigots."
When I was younger some of my black friends used to ask me to hook them up with white girls.
They seemed obsessed by it.
They were not looking for a wife, mind you.
They just wanted to have sex with white girls.
And were not shy telling me about it.
SUMMARY
Maybe this is a topic about which we are not supposed to wonder.
Surely I am not the only one who has noticed that it seems to go one way at least 90% of the time.
If it is simply normal activity after integration, where are the all the white guy/black girl couples one would expect to see out on the town?
There seems to be something else going on.
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Jake— I appreciate your point of view and I cannot deny that MOST of the good comments came early on but not all. I intend to keep this Hub running until my book about this subject—based on the comments I have received—is finished. Just for you I have added some new material below to ponder.
Petrilys— Thank you for the trio of comments you posted here last week. I appreciate your input.
One of the most famous of the Black Civil Rights Leaders, Eldridge Cleaver, wrote:
"Many whites flatter themselves with the idea that the Negro male's lust and desire for the white dream girl is purely an esthetic attraction, but nothing could be further from the truth. His motivation is often of such a bloody, hateful, bitter, and malignant nature that whites would really be hard pressed to find it flattering."
The quite famous Black Studies professor, Amiri Baraka, sort of predicted the epidemic for which this Hub was written way back in 1965. He wrote:
"The average white person thinks of the black man as potentially raping every white lady in sight. Which is true, in the sense that the black man should want to rob the white man of everything he has. But for most whites the guilt of the robbery is the guilt of rape. That is, they know in their deepest hearts that they should be robbed, and the white woman understands that only in the rape sequence is she likely to get cleanly, viciously popped."
Besides the voluntary sexual relations, there is also a huge amount of black-on-white rape in this country. The statistics suggest that black rapists “target” white women. The facts of black-on-white rape are denied and covered up in America.
Eldridge Cleaver wrote in his book "Soul on Ice" that he raped white women in order to defile them and thus get revenge on the white race. Cleaver said that other black rapists of white women have the same motive, and that there is a lot of denial about this. He wrote that the serial rape of white women is politically inspired, motivated by a genuine conviction that the rape of white women is "an insurrectionary act."
Cleaver says, "It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man's law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women...I felt I was getting revenge. From the site of the act of rape, consternation spread outwardly in concentric circles. I wanted to send waves of consternation throughout the white race."
Now it turns out in a new book "The Amateur" that when President Obama was still a swinging single any women he dated were all white. It seems he would have married a white woman, as did his father, except for the fact that "The black women at the core of his future constituency would not approve."
Obama-friendly biographer David Remnick writes this in his 2010 book, “The Bridge,” that Obama's selection of a black wife—particularly a dark-skinned one—was seen by his political advisors as an issue that would be of great importance to black voters.
Princeton political scientist Melissa Harris-Lacewell, a black female who had attended Obama’s church, elaborates, “I don’t think Obama could have been elected president if he had married a white woman.”
Quoting Jake "...and a dumping ground for any idiot who has a brainfart on race."
I like the fact you can describe yourself pretty well. that was exactly what I thought of you.
Levertis Steele— Thank you for all of your marvelous contributions to this thread. I sincerely appreciate your divine presence here. Your comments have been refreshing and enlightening.
@James:
Really, can you give this thread a mercy killing? Anything of value was said in the first month. For a long time, it's just been blabber from white sluts, crackpot amateur historical theories and a dumping ground for any idiot who has a brainfart on race.
Really, no kidding - KILL IT.
A tip for the curious about this universe. It's good to remember that things outside the Earth are not different from the space, at all. Considering that we were one thing before Big Bangs or creations, The passivity and activity of the universe is directly related to Black and White bodies in the sky, including space itself. Interesting.
@James said,
" I have found a link between white girls who have no relationship with their fathers and then dating black guys. I have no research on it but perhaps I will do some. At least personally, the vast majority of white women I have seen sleeping with black men were not raised in an intact home with their fathers present."
Well, if such thing is true so... White men are the main reason for white women X Black men IRs Heh. So there's no saint as I thought.
@jojohnson1957 said,
"...have had many black men want to be hooked up with a white girl...but that was mostly back in the 70's and 80's. Things have changed now....it's not usually all about being with someone to be cool, etc..I never let myself be just a white girl that a black man slept with secretly on the side while taking his black woman/wife in public. If we dated more than once or twice...I made him take me home to meet his family."
People from this generation and beyond will think that being "white or black" are the main theme of the humanity and they are splet in to this directly races. Who knows, maybe in few centuries they might think they are different species *Keeping an eye in my white looking daughter's knowledge*. They will be dumbed about their own existence as individuals. In the meanwhile, many problems happing in the world is due non black africans. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, the " white and black" label is news. Such label didn't exist some centuries ago, you know.
I could say that a 'crash of culture' is more appropriated to describe ethnic groups within multiculturalism. Some may use black invoke his right to be white though people differ from 'country to country' and 'mile to mile'. if you started in some point in Europe, Middle East, Asia or Africa as well, that would be pretty fun.
'Industrialization' in the new world is a western and recent thing. Not even Japan and China actually had industrialized by themselves. Railway lines, including trains, industrial power, goals, etiquette and knowledge came from the west. This is the new way of behaving in the world is solely an european idea. Europe is not only a "white pedigree" based. As you know, your DNA, history and looks clearly says it. Once there sometimes I felt in a new Brazil after some mileniums of a lot of miscegenation. Humans were all about it by the way.
@Levertis Said,
" This is the most controversial hub I have ever followed. The subject, of course, is universal and HEAVY. I need to take a break."
Yeeeep. White men are clearly the weakest when it comes to integration. Unless the matter is associated with their new culture "industrialization". The direct association with Asian women is due to it. Asian women were treated badly in Asia. About white folks, You'd see Them living not differently from the west if they moved to Africa. The same goes for BMs living in Europe and their simple way to conduct their lives.
Black women are more passive to change and integration, along with white women after all. Black men are similar to white men when it comes to "keep their own culture intact". As I said, none actually wants to integrate. If there's whites in Africa you gotta see buildings, Golf, cars, naked people in the beach and pools. If you see blacks in Europe you gotta see people living in simple houses with simple way to conduct their lives. If you go to a giant country where both coexist and have many mixed around, you gotta see both the cultures "crash", into one.
@jojohnson1957 White women are not easy. When a white man or black man who are related with white women says it they are wrong. People in general are used to that. It's called freedom. When you're within your own ethnicity and it's the only thing around, people feel free in date each other more easily. So you gotta see tons pornography in the web related to it. Black men and white women for some reason don't feel that ethnic disconnection. I have noticed that when you live in an area inhabited mostly by blacks and whites (and their mixes).
Although white men tend to have a better and polite social behavior, your personal case within your own whte family shows that men in general need to be re-educated properly while kids. Black people just need an extra tratment if you want them acting as such. Notice that blacks are the most unworried about it without connection with other ethnicities, they kind live freely in Sub-Sahara Africa, which is becoming Westerned day after day.
If I was politician, I'd know exactly what to do to fix men's discipline in general. It's called inductive education, as said in an early comment.
Coolbreeze:
You wrote, "I like the theory that affluent black men marrying white women keeps $$ out of the black community."
That one won't work, Cool. Some Black women have used it for decades to dissuade Black men from moving out. It seems to motivate the BM/WM couples to explore more. The more society interferes with these couples, the harder they fight to be together. I think it has something to do with "black holes, blowing stars, and eating moons for supper." You'd better read about that stuff! :D
jojohnson1957— I appreciate you joining in on our discussion. Thank you for visiting and for both of your excellent comments.
You wrote: "I started dating black men because I had been raped by a white motorcycle gang and instead of turning against men in general for years I hated white men. My father was not in life as I had ran away due to his beating us..so for what our families did to us to make us go black..it was abuse by my father that made me run away...not choosing a black man. That said...over time my anger against white men was resolved as I can't blame all white men for what some did...but I was 12 at the time..and that was how I coped with it."
I am very much grateful to you for sharing this painful story with us.
You wrote: "My father turned his back on me! I didn't slap my family in the face...as was stated...despite my dad's refusal to be in my life and love me regardless...I always forgave him for what he did to me. He died in 2001 but God brought us together for 4 months in order to repair the damage that existed for over 30 years causing me to look in all the wrong places for love...(when I say wrong it is meant with the type of men not their race)."
I have found a link between white girls who have no relationship with their fathers and then dating black guys. I have no research on it but perhaps I will do some. At least personally, the vast majority of white women I have seen sleeping with black men were not raised in an intact home with their fathers present.
Thanks again for your outstanding remarks.
coolbreeze— You may be on to something there. Interesting point. Thank you for reading my Hub and sharing your astute observations with us.
Jake— Yes, the conversation is still going on but it has died down quite a bit. Thank you for checking on us.
Levertis Steele— Both of your comments made 2 days back are duly noted. The subject is controversial and heavy. You have moved the ball far down the road for us. You deserve a break. :D
Petrilys— I appreciate you coming back by to post your pair of additional comments. Thank you for participating in our debate.
Levertis Steele— I appreciate the 4 sets of comments you left here for us a few days ago. I especially like what you wrote about the beauty of serving others.
And it should be noted that you brilliantly added: "I attack issues, not people."
I am so glad that you brought that up. It irks me how so many people these days come into a discussion and right away it is not the issues they debate but it's "YOU are a . . . "
You are surely right that before the 1960s what race mixing there was was mostly white men and black women. So the situation today is revenge?
As you say, "We wrestle not with men, but with powers and principalities."
AMEN!!
Black man— Thank you for both of your excellent comments posted here 3 days back. The article you provided a link to about South Africa is quite interesting. I appreciate your contributions to our discussion.
Sorry I just saw another post that I just had to comment on! What ignorant...yes ignorant white woman would post that all black men belong to white women? I believe that everyone belongs to GOD! What you just said is a statement of slavery as if someone belongs to you in the sense that you stated that means you own them which is slavery! I have one black man not all black men...because I married him. We entered into a vow before God promising ourselves to each other till death due us part. That is what makes us belong to each other but I do not own him nor he me! We are together because we choose to our of love for one each other. Luckily, you made your remark on here and I hope for your own sake that you do not say that in public because as one of the black women on here stated...someone else may not have been as mature as her. Some times even maturity isn't enough when someone says things like you did...so thank God you said it here. I will pray that you find wisdom and that you come to point where you realize you owe an apology for such a statement!
Wow! This is an intense topic! I am impressed with some of the views here and appalled by others! I tried to read most of the comments and don't think one has been made by a white woman who is married to a black man. The statement made by joneeonthespot grabbed me the most...
ask her [a white girl dating black guys] what her family did to her that she is doing this. White women need to wake up, U are basically turning your back on your family, and slapping them across the face." "Not to mention when your black man is with his homies U are the butt of the joke about how your ass got tapped." While this certainly happens in some instances it is not always the case!I do know white women who date black men to be cool and also as James Watkins stated...have had many black men want to be hooked up with a white girl...but that was mostly back in the 70's and 80's. Things have changed now....it's not usually all about being with someone to be cool, etc..I never let myself be just a white girl that a black man slept with secretly on the side while taking his black woman/wife in public. If we dated more than once or twice...I made him take me home to meet his family.
I started dating black men because I had been raped by a white motorcycle gang and instead of turning against men in general for years I hated white men. My father was not in life as I had ran away due to his beating us..so for what our families did to us to make us go black..it was abuse by my father that made me run away...not choosing a black man. That said...over time my anger against white men was resolved as I can't blame all white men for what some did...but I was 12 at the time..and that was how I coped with it.
My father turned his back on me! I didn't slap my family in the face...as was stated...despite my dad's refusal to be in my life and love me regardless...I always forgave him for what he did to me. He died in 2001 but God brought us together for 4 months in order to repair the damage that existed for over 30 years causing me to look in all the wrong places for love...(when I say wrong it is meant with the type of men not their race).
I have a son who is now 32 and my husband has raised him since he was 8 years old because his father died when he was 2 years old. Our marriage has been far from perfect but he has never hit me, cheated on me, etc. He has stuck by through illness, and vice versa. We both accepted God in our lives in 2004 and are still working on getting our lives ready to meet Jesus when he returns. In addition, we are now raising our 13 month old grandson whose deceased father was black and his biracial mother is unable to care for him. We were taken back on his fathers death as he went into the hospital with pneumonia and never came home.
Most of my girl friends are black except those from church and I attend an multi-racial church. I believe when we get to heaven there will be no segregation there! So why here?
In answer to your question James...I agree with stated earlier that the majority of white men and black women do prefer to stay within their race. Which is their own right if they wish just as it's my right to date/marry whom I choose. I don't think anyone should be pressured to be with someone they don't want to. But I believe for many of the black women the reason is they have been raised to stand by their man...to stay strong for their black man and now feel abandoned by them but find it hard to just give up on them because it's a cultural thing. Some are beginning to date outside of their race but I don't think it will be as much as black men/white women. This is a huge problem especially more so for black women then white men because of the statistics that a huge proportion of black men are incarcerated,on drugs or alcohol, on the down low, or already in a relationship; leaving less qualified black men for them.
What really ticks me off is that some people including some black women think that black men date white women because we are easy! Well I know some easy black women, Chinese women, etc...But one thing for sure that my husband will attest to...is I AM NOT!
I like the theory that affluent black men marrying white women keeps $$ out of the black community.
Petrilys— You write, "The vast majority of fatherless children and infidelity comes from the white community."
28% of white children are born into homes without fathers but 70% of blacks are. I have no idea where to find statistics on infidelity. Before white kids were taught multiculturalism—that all cultures are equal including ghetto culture or tribes of savages—the white rate of fatherless children was less than 2%. In the black community it was about 25% back then. Instead of telling children that a culture with 25% fatherless children was just as good as a culture with 1% fatherless children the kids should have taught the Truth—that a culture that produces millions of fatherless children is not good and not as good. Instead black men came to see being fathers to your children as "acting white" and so not worth doing.
You also make some good points, though, and I thank you for your contributions to our conversation. I appreciate both of your sets of comments made here a few days back.
Levertis Steele— Thank you for the pair of additional comments you posted here a few days back to Charles and "Black man." As always, you know I appreciate your participation in our little discussion here. :-)
RASPUTAN— I must say your comments show a significant ability to "think out of the box." Thank you for visiting my Hub.
Black man— I appreciate the four sets of comments you made here 4 days back. Your remarks are excellent and well thought out. I think you are a good man. Thank you for contributing to our debate.
Charles— Thank you for both of the comments you posted here directed at Levertis Steele. I would only point out that in America we do have equality and every has even more than "equal rights."
This thread is STILL going on? Everything to be said was said in about the first month. Now everything's repetition.
Black man— I see three more comments posted here by you a couple of days back. I appreciate you taking the time to read my Hub and engage. Thanks again.
Levertis Steele— I appreciate you coming back to post a trio of additional comments here a couple days ago. Well said and well done. Now get some rest. :-)
Black man— Thank you very much for the six sets of comments you posted here a couple days ago. I appreciate your participation in this conversation. Your contributions are well received.
Levertis Steele— Thank you ever much for the six sets of comments you posted here a few days ago.
I love what you said: "I follow Jesus, not people. He leads perfectly. We humans do not."
Amen to that!
Oh, my goodness. You write: "The "pitiful" state of Black people is caused by SINs. No race of people has power over any race who walks with God."
There you go. These words ring true. Brilliant discernment.
You wrote: "There are many, many Black women with babies and no husbands, or present fathers, in my area of the U.S. There are also a growing number of White women with half-black children and no fathers around to help them. Who is putting heads in the sand about this problem? I have not read a statement from a Black man who touched this problem adequately. . . . fatherless children is a societal problem. . . . When I mention these kinds of truths, some men get upset, and others do not say anything. My concern is for the babies. The men are not suffering. When these children grow up fatherless and present themselves as a problem to society, what then?"
Wow. You spoke much truth right there. Thanks again for your courageous stance and outstanding contributions to this conversation.
James:
This is the most controversial hub I have ever followed. The subject, of course, is universal and HEAVY. I need to take a break.
Charles— I appreciate your comments @ Levertis Steele made 2 days back. Thank you for your contributions to our discussion.
Black Man— I appreciate your participation in this debate. Thank you for coming back to offer more thoughts from your point of view.
Petrilys:
"Levertis Steele You really sounds a lovely person :D the problem is, the world is not a lovely place."
Thanks, Petrilys. I try to be a lovely person even though I must deal with my imperfections. I suppose it is human imperfections all rolled together that make the world a terrible place. We all contribute a little or too much. God bless those who are "perfectly pure," and the rest of us, too!
Petrilys— I appreciate both of your comments from 3 days back. I think some white men resent the tidal wave of black guys humping white women because they know that many black guys are doing it for revenge and they don't want to see their sisters, daughters, cousins, nieces, and mamas used as meat in a racial game just because they are too dumb to see it. In other words, black men who see themselves at the bottom of the American totem pole figure the white guys at the top of the pole have held them down and what better revenge could there be than to screw their daughters and have them pop out babies that the whole world can see at a glance have black baby daddies—who of course are not around?
Levertis Steele— Thank you for coming back by to post a pair of new comments a few days ago. Your remarks are addressed to Petrilys and Charles but I enjoyed reading them as they are most excellent indeed.
YeahRight— I am sorry but I deleted your "comments" because you posted four lines of text and four links to other people's websites. The links did nothing to further our conversation or make a point. The outbound links lower my Page Rank in the Google Search Engine and thereby I get fewer visitors.
Petrilys— Thank you for the excellent comments you posted here 4 days back.
You wrote: " I know "poor" people happier than the richer ones."
I totally agree with you about that.
You wrote: "all I am going to say is, focus in education while black men are in their pre-teen. You won't see 10% of what you see in poor neighborhood . . . Poverty wise, investment in the education for pre-teen blacks is a must"
I am not at al convinced that spending more on government schools for education is the answer. We have tripled the investment in schools in poor communities since the 1960s (in constant dollars) and all sociological indicators are far worse! It could be in fact that the public schools are the problem rather than the solution.
@Charles do not exaggerate. Most relationships are based in sexual attraction. There's plenty malicious people out there and people searching for love. We are not here to prove stuffs neither for whites, mixed, asians nor blacks. People know how black people are. The ones who live with blacks thats it. If they want to 1000+ nuke africa and get rid of them or steal their lands for the lake of their interest or mix the whole thing, is not my business. I just don't want people assuming that the whole contingent is yes, X or Y. That's all. There's enough people in the world to judge how blacks are, and most of them are directly worried with the financial part of their lives. So a connectivity with whites shouldn't be surprized. With blacks and whites, whites most of the time "can't buy them". I heard people saying that blacks don't like of IRs and they are manipulated by media and religion. What also is truely false.
I sasy to them: "have you been in the right places where both coexist?"
@Levertis Steele You really sounds a lovely person :D the problem is, the world is not a lovely place. Actually it require tons of malice and dedication. Small archivmentns and people trying to do something cool bring us different stuffs on a daily base and with their feedback they get it better. For instance i like to play games. Most of the games have heavy feedback from players to their producers how things are going on or not. This is a mesh, grid, network. This network has its nods, and sadly that not concern us. You just wake up here with the rules of eviromnent. We can improve though.
@Black Man said,
"Let's be real then.
..."
This whole post was brillant.
"In the end, people put loads whites near blacks, make a ring of racial tension and end up mixing slowly calling it 'bastard unions'".
+1 for the correlation between galaxies formations and the humanity.
@Levertis Steele. I'm not here to divide and conquer. I am married with white woman. I've said it in my first comment. We share similar feelings and we have talked about it a lot. We're to close to eachother and very confidents. We are not religious, we believe in God and I hope to teach the same ideals of a God of love for my childreen...Even if a religious affiliation to be necessary.
I just don't like to see people being clearly manipulated. Today outside USA it ins't that bad but white men who are against BM-WW will make their lives a hell trying to say they are sub-humans or something for be attracted to dark skinned people. While they are the ones who started the whole multiculturalism due the black women existence (including colored women and east asiatic women) :) The Humanity have been through a lot of stuffs for some infantile feelings make it even worse.
Also, people are relating universal talking with this couple. I've done too. Galaxies, stars surrounding black holes, who falls in to it could be called "nigger lover" too. I don't like idea to know how similar our feelings and attitudes are towards the cosmos because, I could deduce exactly what it all means. And I'm afraid to know the truth.
Black Man:
"We wrestle not with men, but with powers and principalities." Men are small compared to these evil forces. Evil will never be victorious. It will fall with or without us. I am happy I know that the battle is not mine, but God's. We can participate in the battles, but we can never win the war. I am "stupid" enough to believe that there is a victor greater than man. That is my belief.
I know the burden that you and many other assume, but you put weights on your shoulders that you cannot bear. Why suffer when you have an elder brother who has your back? One thing to remember: He is fair, and he loves all mankind.
"Knowledge is power," as you said, but the best use of that knowledge is more powerful. Hitler used power to destroy millions of lives. That was not the best use of his power.
Education is good and is needed badly, but I wonder why Jesus did not choose many educated people. That concerns me.
I saw your points, but I wonder if you are not trying to undertake more than you have to. Check out the war that has already been won.
Charles:
I did get your points.
You said, "Levertis Steele, I am hoping you are not bipolar, you said " I did not respond to many things you said because I perceive that you enjoy controversy. It is futile to argue with you because you do not respect other's opinions unless they agree with you.
"I took it in, and said hey, this woman does not enjoy me, and I said my bad for engaging you, and you say my response was childish. and I never said I wouldn't date black women, I love black women and have defended them vigorously on this page."
No, Charles, I am not bipolar. I won't acuse you of being rude. I will just assume that "bipolar" is a kind word of reference to issue to someone instead of a word of insult. It is quite possible that we have been trading insults! OK. We are even. Case closed.
Young man, I enjoy having freedom of speech and speaking my true thoughts. I know that I am not always right, although I think I am, and I know that others do not always agree with me. I accept that. I come on strong sometimes because I attack issues, not people. What I say should not be considered an attack on you or any one person. We are on opposite sides of the computers and do not know each other. I have no human target.
If I seem bipolar, maybe my age has a little to do with it. However, I am a diehard and love the debate. I learn from everyone I encounter, and I have no regrets. :D
Petrilys:
Thanks for clarifying. I did get your points.
You wrote, "The vast majority of fatherless children and infidelity comes from the white community and non blacks, as well. Of course, there's more them about so it's "natural" the bigger number."
Yes, this is true. Black statistics are usually reported in percentages. There are many more Whites than Blacks in most places, so, naturally their numbers would be greater, not necessarily their percentages. The two methods of measurement can be confusing for some.
Concerning servitude:
It is a sad situation to be in a position where one has to serve without a choice for little pay in return. It is a sad situation to be in a position where one is brutally forced to serve for no pay at all. It is a blessing to serve one's fellow man freely because of love. Servitude is not sad or shameful when it's in its proper perspective. Everyone should serve someone aside from family. Jesus did. A master (boss, employer) does not know how to treat a servant if he has never been one himself. The best leaders are ones who have followed well. I worked in servile positions while I was going to school. I took care of old people who were sick in nursing homes. The pay was fair, but the learning experience is with me until this day.
Black Man:
I did get your point, and I read all of the pages of the link you referred. It was interesting and familiar.
When I was a girl, all of the mulattos I knew, saw, or heard about had White fathers. I knew no White women with half-black children at that time. A very few isolated stories were whispered, but I never saw or heard of anyone else seeing White women with half-black children. Mulattoes parented by White men and Black women somewhat tapered probably during the Civil Rights Movement of America, and the rise of mulattoes between Black men and White women began in America in past decades. Presently, it seems so common. It is also uncommon to see evidence of many mulattoes between White men and Black women. Because it is common to see Black people in all shades, and a fact that all of these mixed children are not high yellow, it is not always easy to determine that a Black woman's child in question is mixed or of light-skinned Black parenting. There is hardly a time that I go outside of my house to any place in my community and do not see evidence of these mixes. I see White grandmothers, mostly, and a very few White grandfathers with the children. I see some Blacks with them and mostly White mothers.
When segregation laws were enacted on any continent in any country with Whites and Blacks (Negroes), they were not put in place without a reason. They were put in place because the lawmakers and people behind them knew what would happen without the aid of restraints. Considering the cases of miscegenation in Africa before the boom of American slavery, and the fear of miscegenation, I am stumped as to why the American slavers would buy slaves and run the risk of miscegenation between Blacks and Whites in America. I suppose they were depending on strict laws to govern Blacks and Whites, thereby preventing any mixing.
@Levertis and @James
Let's be real then.
http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/art
Put in your head that they are in south africa, it's down african contintent almost in the heart of Sub-Sahara africa.
The marriages between blacks and whites starting in 1600 was proibed by court and yet, most of the unions were between white men and black women slaves. 3/4 of ALL interracial relationships dated then were origined from this couple. This is not different from USA, Brazil, Britain, germany, etc and argentina when blacks still exited there 1500-1600.
Basically if you are reading the document, most of the interracial marriages happened between WM x BW, which end up attracted the "rich" side of it as prostitutes. In half century there had a mini population of half-caste which are called of Mesticos. The same goes in Americas. The word Mestiço or Couloured in Islands and Americas were destined for any racial union.
White-Indian African-Indian union weren't counted at all due the small amount of unions. Indian-Coloured were natural union. Whites and Africans segregated abit more after couloured population show up, which were almost similar to the blond masters, which were only slightly darker or with darker features than that from the belgium, french and british population in the region.
The data always shows that whites are the ones fighting to segregate themselves due a "western population purity" THOUGH they were mixing INSIDE SUB-SAHARA-AFRICA. Not Europe.
In the end, people put loads whites near blacks, make a ring of racial tension and end up mixing slowly called it "bastard unions". It in 1500-1903... Also, the document make sure that it was impossible to know who were mixing and where, most of the unions were non-marital due racil mixing proibition (marriages). That explains why there's a 5-10 million mixed today just in that regions.. let's not look at the whole Africa or Americas because it will be a shame. Blacks in argentina were totally absorbed by the white population and today declared to be a 100% white country. Not different from some arab and middle east countries that mixed with sub-sahara africans.
People assume that blacks are the ones chasing everyone while they always were the ones chased and enslaved. Look the reference back then for the "couloured women fever". Most spots of mixing started from white men and black women, black men and white women had relationship but couldn't be officialized back then. Take note that the same opression is alive today.
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Concluding, I don't really know why to insist with it, if whites ain't good enough to assume their wish to be near other race and hide their mixes as being whites or mixed. On other hand blacks ain't capable enough to self sustain. In the end people create a telnet where racism and self pride is necessary to keep their ethnic "pure" although they do not stop the chase. Convinient and it was what blacks in the USA tried to do. Segregation after slavery where mixes could happen freely without anyone actually to know plus, sub-sequent half castes would becoming closer to whites in looks anyway.
In South america the same thing the difference is that the larger amount of slaves were directed to Brazil and they created a telnet of slavery and miscegenation between them. Such thing got so obvious that they end up assuming a miscegenation ideology, to not sounds traitors or doing "betiality". In the end, white people and non blacks are the ones who needs of this bestiality* and it is due your connectivity with black race, genetically. You gotta find yourselves dressed of black and idolizing it for the rest of your lives, in all generations, forever and keeping this lie feeling along the way. The best way to solve it is making all black and afro-descedent in the world to understand what's happing around them, proper education and total self segregation of the race. What will happen if the black community "wake up" I don't know. There's many mixed around and different idelogies today in the world. Like in Britain or French where they assume to like their blacks. But the black population still have this card in the hand to solve their problems, forever.
@Black Man Actually if black population as slaves around the world have had education system as whites back then, it would have been a problem. Even today, if black population worldwide understand 10% of world's history, it would force all blacks to segregation scattered and mixed in many countries, resulting in a mass re-education and imigration to Africa. If such thing happens it will be the world war 3. MLK just tried something similar in USA. A great "wake up". That didn't work well and as result you have a half black community "unified", as you can see nowadays. It would have seen tragic if he actually had educated the black population properly.
@Levertis Steele Where were us?
"I want to see more responsibility. These men should stop getting women pregnant unless they are married to them. Yes, women need badly to be more responsible, too. This is a serious problem that is being ignored.".
http://fallenfathers.blogspot.com.br/2007/03/child
Unfortunately the link with the statistic do not work I'm searching new one. The vast majority of fatherless children and infidelity comes from the white community and non blacks, as well. Of course, there's more them about so it's "natural" the bigger number.
"Why are you bringing images of people that I meet everyday?"
Have you read my comment? Race is a hot theme even today. That's why we're here at a BM (black race) and WW (white race) page. My comment was based in racial indetity.
I said,
"http://thehiphopdemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/20
http://www.miamibuenavistalions.com/old_site/image
http://postpostracial.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/my-
etc
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Although black and white nowadays englobes whole ethnic groups, I tried to show references between humans, their extremities, what they has being doing (the slavery reference where blacks were taking care of white childreen, domestic works in slavery times in americas) and the process of adaptation-evolution between humans (images of ethnic groups around the world)...just clarifying.
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@James. I don't like the idea people associanting everything colored with blacks. They are more than blacks, if they do caucasoid features and/or "tanned" skin tones. Also there's more ethnic groups associated with them. Native Americans could be caramel featured but with East Asian facial features. Admixture between them pre slavery happened and negroid features from sub-sahara are able to break the mongoloid facial features from East Asians. Either way, as in Argentina where they claimed that blacks were "invading their country" in 2008 if I'm wrong, actually were native americans from bolivia and colombia. They were the ones invading Buzios, bahia, salvador, parana and other states in Black regions in Brazil.
People love to associate ethnic problems with the black community. For instance ilegal imigration, xenophobia etc. Where in reality, when I get to see the pictures of the suppose "invaders", none of them actually are black but ethnic groups of multiracial background. Normally they resemble Natives. Black people in 99.999% not even care to leave their regions, let alone mass ilegal immigration to other continents.
There's an exception where a couple thousand south africans sometimes tries illegal immigration to Europe. However they are exceptions and couldn't fill a football stadium. Compare it with the 200 millions of immigrations of other ethnic around the world after post war. It including in africa and europe.
@ Levertis Steele, I am hoping you are not bipolar, you said " I did not respond to many things you said because I perceive that you enjoy controversy. It is futile to argue with you because you do not respect other's opinions unless they agree with you."
I took it in, and said hey, this woman does not enjoy me, and I said my bad for engaging you, and you say my response was childish. and I never said I wouldn't date black women, I love black women and have defended them vigorously on this page.
@Levertis Steele Knowledge is power levertis and that is how many are easily manipulated. You could say: "And even aware of that you're with a white woman?!" Yes. But power control would never be challenged by blacks against whites in multiculturalism anyway. This was the biggest mistake of them as designers of a society. We're doing exactly what part of that planned society wanted.. Although in a disorganized fashion. Yet, the result is the same.
Either way, are you making sure to wake up the black community in relation these events? Either way, are you making sure to wake up the black community in relation these events? That's why I say if you do not know what is happening in your back is better be quiet...
@Levertis Steele The question is everything you are seeing, including interacial couples is result something else in the past.
When people bring statistics about what a particular group of persons are doing or not, it's not directly your fault. As I said it comes from a different place called education. People have methods to conduct people to be rationals depending how they grow from their elementary schools until grown old. Black people have missing these tatics and today have no interest in general due brainwashing, too. So when someone come up with BlACKS DO IT! BLACK DID THAT! Make sure it's structured. Cuba not so long ago was a place for europeans and americans as "prostituion and cacine". Fidel just got pissed up and tried put an orden in the chaos. too bad that he was betrayed by its neighbors. Otherwise South America would have become the super power of the world long time ago.
Blacks in South America also didn't have luck my friend Levertis, the "favela" was the result back then in the imperialist times. The "Lei Áurea" which gave freedom for slaves in Brazil also endorsamento condemnation of them as citizens integrated and aware of what was happening in their back. In the end it served to attract more migration to the country and no land reform was atulamente concetizada. They termanam in slums without anything to do while the hand specialist came out, Italian, German, Portuguese etc.
You need to understand the chaos around you and its real origins in order to affirm stuffs I've done here. When I say that blacks have similar potential as anyone individual, I'm not lying. There's a machine behind it and the randomness did what you are seeing today. I've heard people in Brazil back then to the 1940-1970 actually could live their lives without neither halls, walls nor gates in their homes by methodology applied to children in general in certain regions. And yes, highly black and white populated regions without racial percussion.
Don't be fooled with random opinions about Black x white couples, black men and white women couples. There's a history behind it, there's a history behind your porverty, there's a history behind landowners, educational projects and its corruptions, relations and etc... Black men ain't thugs or criminals, the society leaves it to chance.
Charles:
I do not agree with some of your issues, but there are others that I do support. Isn't it normal to disagree? You do not agree with some of my issues. That is ok, and I will sleep well. If I get upset with everyone who does not agree with me, I would be writing fussy notes to nearly everyone who traded words with me on this page. Would you feel better if I told you that Master James does not agree with all I have said, nor I him? That is life and no reason to become enemies. Would you rather that I lie to you in order to keep you happy? I expressed my true feelings. I can live with your disagreement. It is not uncommon. I find it ironic that you would not marry a Black woman, yet you expect one to agree with you, and get heartlessly angry if one doesn't. Be a good sport. We are just debating.
You said, "Levertis Steele, thanks for your reply, I see that you do not like my stance on most of the issues I talked about on this page, well too bad, if you mean me to be more agreeable to the asinine comments made on this page about black people, and to give up my ideas on oneness between races, and equality, values which I hold dear to my heart and will defend to my mid bone, then im sorry. I do not like your stance either, and it was my bad really to engage you."
This last sentence is a little childish, don't you think? Get over it, and be my friend, young man! Your wife, too! :D
Black Man:
You said, "I'm not sure what you mean with it. I said to be with someone for who they are. My partner isn't just a white person she was someone else in my freaking life. Why can't you understand it?"
You also said, "There's people doing porn videos in their homes every second, being lesbians and gays, doing all sort of stuff and why should I be the only one to justify my attitudes? Considering you're talking to a "good black man". "The good black men". I want they all good. I work for this purpose... Neither the society nor people like jealous ones helps though."
Jealous people are not trying to help something that they oppose! It is a normal human emotion that soon dissipates if it is not too intense. It is not so serious, though.
This srticle is not about porn videos, homosexuality, or other negatives, although I have been guilty of trailing off subject. For the third time, I believe, I do understand and respect people who love their wives for who they are regardless of race. I am happy that you love your wife. I have not one thing against her. I am not jealous of her! I am an older women, unlike some younger ones who get jealous easily. I never said that your relationship was a sin or wrong. I wish you both good health.
I did say that I do not like the way some Black men treat Black women when they choose a White woman. I do not like the idea of Black men marrying White women for the sake of mixing or anihilating the Black race. That is what I oppose. I also said that I see nothing wrong with people wanting to preserve their races. Again, I have not been persuaded that intermarriages are sinful, so I do not judge them. God does not need my help!
Keep in mind that Christians are not perfect, nor is anyone else.
Charles— I had been wondering where you were. Welcome back. I appreciate your comments though I do not think "hate" is the subject here. I do not hate anybody and I pray you don't either.
Levertis Steele— Thank you for coming back to share more of your worldview with us. It is with great sadness that I lament with you this that you wrote:
"Think of the millions of Chinese girls who will never breathe because some were forbidden for not being boys"
Horrible. That is the way of the godless, my dear.
I do like that you wrote these words: '"Petrilys: You said, "In the end this hub is about white guys and black women talking about someone else's business."
Surely you know that Black male and White female coupling affects White men and Black woman.'
Yes indeed. Amen!
Marden Victor— You make some very interesting points. Thank you very much for sharing your perspective with us. I appreciate your participation in our debate.
Paula Gayle— The reason this Hub was written is to ask the public—that includes you—why it is that you see 15 black guys out on the town with white girls for every 1 white guy you see out on the town dating a black girl? There has to be a reason or some reasons for the difference OR it would balance out about the same. That is the question.
Petrilys— Thank you for coming back by to contribute more to our conversation. I very much appreciate the trio of fine comments you made here a few days back.
You ask: "Are you able to live only surrounded by another Europeans?"
Well, no. I can live around any sort of people but I prefer people who have similar values, customs, traditions, and beliefs.
You say, "You can't accept different people . . . "
But sure I can. I have and do have friends and acquaintances of all kinds. I accept people for who they are.
I see no advantage to "diversity" and out of all its proponents none have ever shown any evidence what it is that is supposed to be so great about it. They just say "Diversity is good for you." Really? How so? Silence. In fact, sir, social studies show that the more diverse any neighborhood is, the less happy the people are who live there and the less safe they feel and the less they interact with their neighbors.
That doesn't mean I "hate" anybody, as you claim. That is favorite buzzword of Satanists these days. If you disagree with the godless agenda in any way you are a "hater" the Devil says. Excuse me but I don't hate anybody. I love everybody. And yes, I am a Christian.
Racism is a homosexual disease.
joneeonthespot— I appreciate the visit to my Hub. Thank you for contributing to our discussion with your fascinating remarks.
You wrote, " . . . ask her [a white girl dating black guys] what her family did to her that she is doing this. White women need to wake up, U are basically turning your back on your family, and slapping them across the face."
That is an interesting point of view. I do think you hit on an excellent point when you added this:
"Not to mention when your black man is with his homies U are the butt of the joke about how your ass got tapped."
I am sure that goes on quite a bit.
YogiSmart— Thank you very much for your insightful comments. I appreciate your participation in our debate.
@Levertis Steele No need for grammatical policy. I understood what you meant.
@Levertis, the "be quiet" wasn't ins't directed only to you.
I said it for jealous people in general. I've no idea who is behind that screen. It could be anyone in the world. When I was arguing with black friends about some problems in the black community, it was in face to face. When I chatted with white republicans who are pissed with some bad stuffs in their community and also in the black community, it was face to face. There's more people who are not interested in black men white women love. Many ethnic of men want to be dating them and you, you know.
By the way, in any moment I said bad stuffs about black women. I've stated that I've dated them, loved it, didn't work. So I've being with white women. Some were interesting women that I could risk to be with in an open world (marriage) instead of dating.
You said,
"You like white women because they are white, that's who they are"
I'm not sure what you mean with it. I said to be with someone for who they are. My partner isn't just a white person she was someone else in my freaking life. Why can't you understand it? There's people doing porn videos in their homes every second, being lesbians and gays, doing all sort of stuff and why should I be the only one to justify my attitudes? Considering you're talking to a "good black man". "The good black men". I want they all good. I work for this purpose... Neither the society nor people like jealous ones helps though.
You said,
"IQ's", if the world will be a paradise without any sort of violence and killings only due this word, why would I care to procreate at all? There's plenty of people with better IQ than ours about. It didn't help in the past etheir. It don't stop japaneses to suicide 30k times per year either... it didn't stop them to wish to be with someone else in their country or outside their countries either. So I guess that this life is not just about IQ. If it is, so I hope that the highest IQ's finish the lowest ones with military arsenal as fast as possible.
@ Levertis Steele, thanks for your reply, I see that you do not like my stance on most of the issues I talked about on this page, well too bad, if you mean me to be more agreeable to the asinine comments made on this page about black people, and to give up my ideas on oneness between races, and equality, values which I hold dear to my heart and will defend to my mid bone, then im sorry. I do not like your stance either, and it was my bad really to engage you.
you talk about sins, wow, our situation is caused by our sins, it is a pity when people are talking about development, and love, someone is talking about how that person deserves what he is getting because of his sins, one of the very reasons why even the Jews could not see Jesus on the cross, I mean, if he was so righteous why is he suffering? why doesn't he just dash and save us all, why is he poor, why aren't his disciples paying their taxes. Just to say this, sins are not the only reason that people go into bondage, Gods plans are huge, example, when God wanted to bless Israel, he made them serve Egypt, the story of Joseph who went into bondage,its a pity to hear talks like yours, the millenia age old claim that the reason of people predicament is there sins. yes, I am eager for us to end our conversation.
Like I said before and will say again, the united states is not a white only land, it has nothing to do with the white man only, the black also fought for the freedoms and development of the land, all im saying is we all look forward to the time when everyone has equal rights, when my black brothers and sisters from another land are represented in every sector of society, and not as the scum that James and his cohorts has been referring them to, bringing upon every statistics on the planet to show and point every weakness they have.
Black Man:
I hate making typos and other errors, but it happens. "If you HAD", not HAS, "read enough of my older posts...." I am posting this correction to the second sentence in my last post.
Black Man:
I said several times that misunderstanding is often a problem in communication. If you has read enough of my older posts, you would have seen my statements that I do not oppose miscegenation if done for the right reasons. I said many times that I do not advocate for it, but I would not say that it is wrong. I am one who prefers marriage within ones own race. This is merely a preference, not a law.
The [problem I have with Black men like you is your constant knack of promoting White women and Black men and demoting Black women and White men. White men and Black women mostly want their own, and there is not anything wrong with that. I do not get caught up with those who make racial statements and downsize people because of their color or race. That is not "my cup of tea."
When some Black men, including yourself, present an argument to elevate the union of Black men and White women, you cannot manage to do it without stepping on the heads of the opposite sex of each race. Some Black men say negative things about Black women in order to justify why they choose White women, such as, your argument about IQ's. My IQ is high enough. Isn't yours? I have to admit that, although it is not intentional, White men and women who downsize Black women seem to be joining forces with you Black men to carry out your agenda. Many Whites do not do tha, though. Well, if some if some of the negative things are true, it cannot be disputed, BUT!!!
You said, " I've been talking to you for the whole day and you still don't accept the fact that people may like people for who they are."
I do accept the fact that people like people for who they are! You like White women because they are white. that's who they are, right? Well, I suppose you mean "character," and if that is what you mean, I accept that. BUT, why do you make a point to paint others in a negative light? Look at the statements you made 14 hours before I wrote this. You actually stated your agenda. Your purpose is to use White women as "bleach" to erase that black you hate so much. I know that a few Blacks and Whites get together for love, but most do not. The love, I can understand, but that hidden agenda is the one that interests me. If Black men would not step on Black women's heads to elevate their statuses, I would be quiet, as you have asked several times.
Hey! What do you mean by "Be quiet"? I can see that you are used to controlling women. One of the best ways to get control of women is to treat them with love, respect, and fairness, as appropriate.
Again, I do respect the fact that people like or love each other for their character traits. That is human. Nevertheless, many of these relationships are about more than that, and those are the ones that attract curiosity. You have made some very interesting statements to help prove the agenda.
@Levertis think about it...
@Levertis Steele ... I've been talking to you for the whole day and you still don't accept the fact that people may like people for who they are. Not because James want or you want. Or statistics. I'm not in jail otherwise I wouldn't be here. Most black aint anyway.
I walk around 10030020423040230420340 white women and mixed thro the weeks and I could have dated 100213020320 if I wished. I have all that one needs to pleasure a woman...
I've dated two black women and mixed with no sucess. Thus, one of them is married a white man and so far they are well married. What makes your opinion really funny. ( She was racist toward whites due reciprocity).
Some people do not buy into dating out because it usually comes from bitterness and spite. I'm here because I do 12 years of confidence. So of course my opinion differs from yours. There's racism around? Yep. Do I care? Nope. There was racism before dating whites? Yes, did I care? Nope. Nothing have changed.
Either you get going with your life and make it a better place for everyone or just stay quiet, including the jealous. Will USA stop mixing and blacks and whites will build a Hall of the races to never ever talk to each other once again? Maybe like the germans did with each other due religon? I don't care. If people do not respect eachother it should be the first thing to be built. I bet my life it will never happen though. Wanna bet?
So I won't estimulate my relatives to hate based in color. They will love or hate people based in other stuffs and be loved or hatred anyway. So I'm sorry, I did not find reasons at all for a better world without my genes or mixed genes... Pure white world? See the implications. Look at the past centuries in totally pure white countries. Pure black world? See the implications. Look at parts of africa itself without other ethnic. Pure Asian race in the whole world? Look at what they do to themselves and their babies and minds....
Yeah.
Black Man:
Get a grip! You should not be so easily angered.
When I said "I will survive" I meant "I won't allow your comments that I do not agree with to affect me negatively."
If I am not married to a Black man, then, I should paint him. I simply have a mind of my own. You do not have to agree with it, but you should respect it as my right to differ. Do women have a voice where you live? Maybe we are having a cultural clash. I am black, too, but some of our beliefs and values differ. That's ok!
Much peace.
@Levertis Steele
Black Man said,
"black 80-93 IQ, Mixed 96-104 IQ on avarage, Whites 100-112 IQ on avarage. Along with appearance, we have not changed at all."
The info is on the links and the reach from 1974 is not different from the current ones. In 1974 whites already knew of existence of black holes and that blacks had something to do with humanity, early it they thought everyone was a different species (though different species cannot reproduce otherwise I'd love some lionhuman around).
So the references are with links and are real.
@Levertis said,
"I will survive!"
There's roughly including mixes, 2 billion of blacks as divuduals in the world some are among whites in americas, mixed in americas, africa, middle east, europe, islands.
BLACK MEN DONT CARE FOR I WILL SURVIVE BULLSHIT. THE WHOLE WORLD IS RELATED TO ME WHY WOULD I CARE FOR MY BLACKNESS EXISTENCE FOR THE SAKE OF IT?
"I'll surivve!" Wtf you mean with it? You're married with a black man for zillion years and yet you're saying that? You're not married with a black man, Levertis.
I don't give a shit about James or any racism in the world, my word is: "HUMANS WILL SURVIVE AND HAVE FUN!"
Black Man:
You said, "A study done in 1974 showed that mixed children with black mothers had lower IQs than those with white mothers – although their IQs were still far higher, on average, than blacks in general, both light-skinned and dark-skinned. Their IQs were close to that of white children."
and,
"So levertis, the union of black men and white women still generates kids with IQ as close in avarage as a normal white kid, and 8-20 points higher than that from white men, black women and blacks in general."
1974? What are the recent stats? I have seen the stats that you have shown on Black men and White women. I have also seen the stats on White men and Black women. It seems that everything is in your favor, my brother.
Unless I missed it, I have not seen the stats on White men and White women. Did you miss that, or did I? Please direct me if I did.
I have read the words of some Whites who said that Blacks mixing with Whites lower the kids IQ's. I do not know if that is true or not. What did you find?
I am mainly interested in the stats of the all-white parents. Actually, you have already answered that question! Pardon me, please. I will quote you:
"So levertis, the union of black men and white women still generates kids with IQ as close in avarage as a normal white kid,"
"as close in average as a normal white kid"? These are White men's and White women's children! What have you shown here?? That means, according to your research, that Black men lower the IQ's of children between them and White women. What does that tell you, since you have "shown" that Black women and White men together produce dummies. What is your conclusion, my brother? Let me say it:
LEAVE THOSE WHITE MEN'S WOMEN ALONE SO THEY, TOGETHER, CAN PRODUCE HIGH IQ KIDS! LOL, WITH LOVE! I REALLY HATED TO ANALYZE YOUR RESEARCH, BUT SOME OF YOU BLACK MEN REALLY KICK BLACK WOMEN HARD. YOU KICK WHITE MEN, TOO. I AM NOT TRYING TO DOWNSIZE BLACK MEN, BUT MANY OF YOU ASK FOR IT. MESS WITH ME!!!!!! I TRULY LOVE YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU HATE ME. I WILL SURVIVE, MY BROTHER! SO WILL YOU IF YOU STOP RESEARCHING. :D
I find that prison information interesting.
@Levertis Steele Whenever we start talking about statistics comparing ethnic people stay quiet. The numbers don't lie and all I see is black males doing small crimes and 50% of them are about drugs. Drugs makes people act diferent than they do. So you have small crimes like theif where men go in someone else house or store to steal small valuable items. Normally for drugs, food or money itself.
The richest people in the world ain't blacks and they are doing the same thing. Stealing stuffs from other people and nations or doing wars for some reason. Have black men changed at all? Yeah. black 80-93 IQ, Mixed 96-104 IQ on avarage, Whites 100-112 IQ on avarage. Along with appearance, we have not changed at all.
In africa most problems are due older ones. Most of them are due small groups of rebels killing or raping randomly people. Small means small, not even 2% of the black africans in Sub-Sahara actually do this. In Europe its about global economy which leads people to wars, racism which leads people to segregetion. Similar to Middle eastern countries (though most are made up of black and white early mixes, Marrocos arab (natives from equator line plus black and white mixes), marrocos black and white and arab mixes) etc. In asia similar problems with poverty. China had 790 millions of people under the poorest line in 2010. India the same situation. Only 10-20% of the country actually is considered "rich". Rapes and killing are commons among asians too. You could Add the weird tendency in kill babies (females) which generates some millions of death per year. They also are racists towards themselves and neirbor ethincities. Arabs don't mix with chineses or "black africans" though there's many blacks among them. Chineses with many plus japaneses, Japaneses against chineses, koreans and any other ethnic but white european or north american rich individuals.
Blacks have problems yeah, SOCIAL problems. We are leading the worldwide culture and making people get along as much as possible. All I can say is, special education on blacks and your dream will be true.
@Levertis Steele Have you read what I wrote? Do it. I want to hear your opinion about my last comment. I did show that no one is actually worse to be called saint. As education goes, the numbers decrease of course, but yet still persists. And still, blacks are the ones with less focused education among all humans. People assume we're able to survive independent of the circunstances. And we are, but do not count with 100% of the blacks acting like Dr Stephen Hawking if you don't want they to.
Petrilys:
You quoted me as saying this. I did not. I did read it in someone's comments.
"@Levertis said,
"I so wanted to see black men being X or Y"
Please, you don't expect to see diference in culture between the opposite but the looks? *Laugh out and loud*."
There is so much misunderstanding which is no one's fault. Word meaning is a problems because of our language differences.
I was trying to understand why you always show pictures of people who are so common to us all, I suppose. I have to look no further than my family, neighbors, shopping centers, churches, etc., to see White and Black people, Asian, and mixed children. Many Africans from certain countries are plentiful here in America. People from all over the world come to America. What is the point? I am missing something.
@Levertis Steele Since we're talking about mix, IQs and education let's look what direct celebrity mixes are doing and their IQs...
direct white males and black mothers babies 50/50
"A study done in 1974 showed that mixed children with black mothers had lower IQs than those with white mothers – although their IQs were still far higher, on average, than blacks in general, both light-skinned and dark-skinned. Their IQs were close to that of white children."
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/white-fath
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Direct white females and black males babies: 50/50
mixed children brought up by a black father and a white mother had a mean IQ of 104.7, more than 8 points higher than those raised by a white father and black mother: 96.4. And, by the way, almost 5 points higher than the mean white IQ and, in those days, nearly 20 points higher than the mean black IQ."
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/black-fath
So levertis, the union of black men and white women still generates kids with IQ as close in avarage as a normal white kid, and 8-20 points higher than that from white men, black women and blacks in general.
If you are referring to IQ is the solution for black people, one answer is mixing. If you're talking about crimes, theft, social problems
Bad education, lack of religion and goals even being rich or poor, black or white or mixed (hispanics, latins asians) results:
The "National Youth Gang Survey Analysis" (2009) state that of gang members, 49% are Hispanic/Latino, 35% are African-American/black, 9% are white, and 7% are other race/ethnicity
Prison data
According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009.[28] Hispanics (of all races) were 15.9% of those incarcerated in 2009.[28] Hispanics comprised 16.3% of the US population according to the 2010 US census.[29][30] According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics from 2000 to 2008 the rate of prevalence of incarceration for blacks declined to 3,161 per 100,000 and the white rate slightly increase to 487 per 100,000[31]. In 2009 American Indians and Alaskan Natives were jailed, paroled, or on probation at 932 per 100,000, 25% higher than for non-Indians/Natives (747), up 5.6% that year and 12% higher than 2007.[32]. However, crime in general declined during this time down to near 1970 levels, an 18% decrease from the previous decade.[33]
For men in their early thirties, African-Americans are about 7 times more likely to have a prison record than whites. They are more likely to have been in prison (22.4 percent) than in the military (17.4 percent). However, more blacks are enrolled in college than in prison. According to the US Census Bureau as of the year 2000 there were 2,224,181 blacks enrolled in college.[34] In that same year there were only 610,300 black inmates in prison according to the Bureau of Justice.[35] 12.5 percent have a bachelor’s degree.[citation needed]
THE RESULTS ARE HIGHLY DEPENDENT OF EDUCATION (religion helps).
In the end, there's LESS non african americans and blacks non hispanics whites doing hate crimes, rape, in prison, theif and gang formation than blacks.
The same result is for marriage drops, though we know there's more whites in the united states. Still, the rape of fathers towards their daughters is almost none compared to white and hispanic population. The divorce rate people without a husband or wife with kids is higher between whites, too. It would be higher if blacks were the majority of the nation, but blacks are the majority in Brazil and the numbers are similar.
Despite industrialization, self prestige and vainglory, blacks would be "ghosts" among non- black population if they were taught to not broken the law. The majority of blacks in prison are due DRUGS. If it wasn't drugs, 59% of blacks wouldn't be in prisons. It would lead black people as the most comportable race. Blacks also are considered the lastest racist race in the world. Of course, there why we're in a white woman and black man page and americas to begin with.
The key is? EDUCATION and religion as a "self respect key", if necessary.
THE SOLUTION IS THERE. LETS SEE WHAT THE GORVENMENT OR THE PEOPLE READING THIS WILL DO ABOUT IT.
Black Man:
Issues, situations, and opinions are not exactly the same in one country as another. Sometimes we are on diferent "pages" and are not exactly speaking of the same things. That's where misunderstandings come in.
You said, " Either you wait more 15.000 years for blacks totally become whites in the west or cold regions or we mix abit and balance it up."
This is an example of being on different pages. I do not have any plans to become White, nor do I know any Blacks who do. I really do not know how to respond to this. Are Blacks in your country working on becoming White!!?? What is wrong with being Black, Black Man? Please do not say anything about black holes and spitting stars. I am far from that.
@Levertis Steele Education and religion were necessary even in white countries to reach what you're asking. I'm not criminal, I'm not drug dealer, I'm not a baby maker. I'm married with a white woman for..... 12 years?
@Levertis Steele The majority of black men in the americas are married or committed with women. 20-30% which is a high number, may be the ones you're reffering to, but it's a miracle considering the amount of time black people took in different places to became white. Black and white are living together. They go to mars, Levertis. They build computers. Either you wait more 15.000 years for blacks totally become whites in the west or cold regions or we mix abit and balance it up. There's always the opinion of heavy investiment in education and special education towards black people. Is there any? Ppl alrady said
So yeah ROLFIMAO = smile :)
Petrilys:
Yes, I understand that people differ in opinions. I respect that. I also understand and agree with your point about pressure on Black males and White females not to marry, but I do not understand the abandoned babies. Half-white babies between these couples are increasing. If they feel pressured to remain single, how does that prevent supporting illegitimate children? Why doesn't that pressure cause them to avoid getting the women pregnant? The children are the most innocent victims. I read threads that feature White women who are tired of the way people in society criticize them because of these children. Yes, it is wrong, but it happens.
Yes, I agree that White male/Black female couples, although they are few, do not encounter the problems that White women and Black men encounter. I have seen evidence of that. People stare at them but do not taunt them as much as the others. Still, this does not explain the increasing number of half-black babies that come into the world fatherless. This is why some Black women say, "Why should we be jealous? They (Black men) leave them with children, too."
I want to see more responsibility. These men should stop getting women pregnant unless they are married to them. Yes, women need badly to be more responsible, too. This is a serious problem that is being ignored.
@Levertis Steele Imao I can't stop laughing yet. Black men have it hard too, my friend levertis. We're the males, we need to face racism with our hands and if black men were "pussy" back then, you still would be serving whites in their houses as a slave (not that it have changed anyway - job.money = slavery).
Part of so called "niggers" also were necessary to face the rednecks, the facists, racists in millions that wanted and still want you as a slave and sexual slave in the west. Most black women are hot when they take care of themselves, are re-mixed and so on, but most end up being used by men. Correct me if I'm wrong. Sexual turism in the south america focus on you, hot colored women.
I repeat, there's a vast arsenal de different men to pick, black woman. I'm not sure if multiculturalism works if we do not mix and interact a bit. It or stay isoled in your native land forever. None of them, white or black respected it. So something is wrong, something is necessary to complete what we call life. Many blacks are among whites today, mixed too the noobs can't see the different bewteen real blacks and whites. People brought links. That is white and black and the rest is prety much a mix in this long run we have been together.
Black man, you said,
"Imao when a black woman says "I wanted see black men diferent" I can't stop laughing. Why can't they see how many looks and forms we actually got to satisfy their desire? ROFLMAO. Starting from black to infinite possibilities and finally white with her tagging along all the way. In the end, she is not satisfied with any or back to like the old one."
Women....................................."
I do not know the meanings of those "IMAO's" and "ROFLMAO's." Do not get too cocky. When a Black woman says that she prefers a Black man, she means that she respects him as ideal for a Black woman and tries to support him in good things. This is not to say anything negative about other races. It is merely a preference. Most Black women find most Black men attractive physically, but they can be so pigheaded, mentally!
I said, "when a black woman says "I wanted see black men diferent" I can't stop laughing. Why can't they see how many looks and forms we actually got to satisfy their desire?"
When I said I wanted to see a change in Black men, I was not referring to the physical; I was referring to behaviors and state of mind.
There are many, many Black women with babies and no husbands, or present fathers, in my area of the U.S. There are also a growing number of White women with half-black children and no fathers around to help them. Who is putting heads in the sand about this problem? I have not read a statement from a Black man who touched this problem adequately. This is the kind of thing I would like to see changed. Being jealous of White women and Black men is not a problem or a concern of mine. Jealousy is a normal emotion, but fatherless children is a societal problem. Can you stop laughing now?
When I mention these kinds of truths, some men get upset, and others do not say anything. My concern is for the babies. The men are not suffering. When these children grow up fatherless and present themselves as a problem to society, what then?
Charles:
Control yourself. You are angry. Are you upset because I am not miserable? I did not respond to many things you said because I perceive that you enjoy controversy. It is futile to argue with you because you do not respect other's opinions unless they agree with you.
You said, "If you tell me that it is not as pitiful as I say it is, then it's black women like you who are the problem, who have rested in their situations and buried their heads in pretence that all is well, content with the drippings of food from their 'masters' table. I think you need to learn a thing or two from your white female counterpart not to be rude."
You cannot affect me by pitting me against White women: "You could learn a thing or two from your white female counterpart not to be rude." That is an old, childish trick that some Black men use to bash black women. It is worn. All Black women are not rude or kind; all White women are not rude or kind. So, who is to teach whom? I follow Jesus, not people. He leads perfectly. We humans do not.
You try to anger me with that old "master's table" gibberish, and you failed. I could say the same to you by using White men, but I do not need to do that to have a simple conversation. It is childish.
I had no idea I had so much power: black women like me are the problem! Ok. I apologize for being America's Black problem.
Maybe I did plug in a few rude remarks, but you are far from being the fine Black gentleman.
Faithless people whine and snot about oppression and pitiful states of Black people! "With God all things are possible," and it is time to stop acting as if Whites have to open doors in order for Blacks to get a piece of bread or progress to better states. I am the problem? If childish Carolyns are the problem, then, wise Charleses should be able to solve it. I am simple and childish. Take this child by the hand, and move her aside. Am I too hard? The "pitiful" state of Black people is caused by SINs. No race of people has power over any race who walks with God. When the Israelites walked contrary to God's will, they ended up in the hands of people who controlled them. Whether you are Christian or not, those Biblical stories teach valuable, common sense lessons.
I cannot bear these burdens. I gave them to God, and I feel good. Your choice is your right.
You say things in order to persuade people to think the way you do, and you seem to enjoy confusion. If I do not address some of your bait, do not be offended. It is my choice and right. I have read many of your arguments, and I perceive where you are going with some, although you have made some sound points.
When I mentioned how good I feel, how I raise my head and do not let the weights of life get me down, I was giving praises to God for giving me so much peace during all of the wars that people rage among themselves and between races. If you want to drop your head and enjoy the sting, I won't interfere, but I will continue enjoying the "peace in the midst of the storm." No man can give me peace and no man can take it away. Imagine, you are upset because I am happy! God gave me this happiness, and it has nothing to do with being black.
Keep in mind that you are not obligated to address my posts. It is your choice. I sincerely wish you much peace.
@Levertis Steele, you gave a childish response to my argument. It makes me liken you to the proverbial ostrich that covers its head in the sand while the whole body is exposed. When I talk about being Minority of the minority and the problems faced by black women in foreign lands, I am not talking about hatred from people, I am talking about being a minority of the minorities in the system. From schooling, to loans, to politics, jobs, the police and general perception, to dating. i am not talking about how you carry yourself high or how you deflect hate from people. if you tell me that you do not feel any pressure from being a minority of the minority, a pressure that is felt by the majority of black people who have goals and responsibilities, who have dreams and the like, then my likening of you as the Ostrich did not miss the mark. If you tell me that it is not as pitiful as I say it is, then it's black women like you who are the problem, who have rested in their situations and buried their heads in pretence that all is well, content with the drippings of food from their 'masters' table. I think you need to learn a thing or two from your white female counterpart not to be rude.
Imao when a black woman says "I wanted see black men diferent" I can't stop laughing. Why can't they see how many looks and forms we actually got to satisfy their desire? ROFLMAO. Starting from black to infinite possibilities and finally white with her tagging along all the way. In the end, she is not satisfied with any or back to like the old one.
Women.....................................
@Levertis I'm not missunderstand you. I just don't agree with what you and @thejanitapoeshow believe.
You just said,
"That cannot happen because of the nature of most of the Black male/White female relationships."
"...I do not doubt that a few of such couples actually feel love for each other, but in my area of the US, I see very few marriages occurring between them."
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Marriages do not happen so often between black americans and white americans becauuse of a racist society built in USA, because of different interests, because of your history and etc. This is different from Brazil and Britain where most blacks are mixed in many degrees. This is not easy as you think. A white woman wishing a peaceful "racism free" life with a black man in a white majority society isn't easy. Haven't you seen white women coming and asking why white men are against BM x WW? Black woman, mixed woman in relationship with white men last longer than any other couple because it's their society. White men in africa being racists and wishing marrying black women may find it hard to keep them 'forever', too. Although blacks in africa, I mean BLACK africans, not stereotypes (thugs, gangsters etc it ain't black african) are not racists.
@thejanitapoeshow said,
"The question is why are so many black men, as James said, so obsessed with white and and non-black women and asking white guys to "set them up" with white women, as James mentioned in his post. No race of men goes after white women the way some black men do. THAT is the question James is asking and it is one many, many people (besides black men like you) are asking."
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This is not exactly that way. Black men are men. We're living in the americas. Most of these places in the Americas today are based in multiracial, biracial and white people. The chance of one dating a white woman increase since there's more white women or white looking women about than otherwise. Does it happens in Black Africa?
Black men are being stoned in this society to be kept away from white women. How many times do I have to say it? Have you seen the links from different countries and what people were talking about?
You said,
"What is false about the states of some men I mentioned? It is truth, although I was using sarcasm after the weird things that Ellenvick said to me."
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You're being biased. Black men and white men have different nature. Opposite nature. We basically are opposite as many are yelling. just because we live side by side in some spots doesn't mean we're completely equal. Unless we solve our diferences mixing, it takes many thousand years from a black guy totally transfor into a white caucasoid individual. We're talking about black and white. Hello? Opposite. Take note of it...
Do not expect to see black men totally acting as white males and being engineers or doctors or masturbers in video games because our nature is opposite. So do not except to see white men in sahara africa doing a "waka waka jung jung" as they believe how black men naturally are. We are trying have similar goals, at least with the whites non racists, and vice verse, but it takes time.
The only way to highlight what I'm saying is pointing our hip hop worldwide culture. Eminem being a "wigga" or a black man playing heavy metal being an "uncle tom" is a good example of whites and blacks trying to find a common denominator...although most black men actually aren't thugs. They live a simple life. There's racism in africa towards black africans to, even though they all from east or central africa would easly be considered blacks in the west. It is more about culture of the ethnic.
Charles:
I sound like James? I sound like myself. I believe that James lives in America, too, so it should not be surprising that we see some of the same things. Now, before you say it, I am not James. If I am, then, he is wearing a dress!
You really misunderstand me! I am not a woman who walks around with her head down.
You said, "It's not easy to be a minority of the minority. your not only facing hate based on race, but you are also subject to sexism living in a place where everyone thinks they are better than you and living you to prove yourself in the midst of social pride."
Your statement is true in a way, but not as pitiful as it states.
If anyone hates me, they are alone! I won't let it touch me. I hate no one and no one's hatred of me governs how I feel or live. I have never, never met the person who is better than I am. I think highly of myself. If anything, I must harness myself, lest I become guilty of being too proud. Because I love all people, I experience a peaceful freedom that no man can give or take away from me. Maybe I am a part of a minority, but I do not feel any pain or fears of being such. I am a part of the world that God put me in. I am not sad or feeling oppressed or kicked down by anyone. I am high in spirit and feeling good! I feel as if I am inside of a glass ball rolling through the world. I think some call that "peace in the midst of a storm."
I admit that Black and White Americans as wholes do not get along as well as neighborly Christians, but most outsiders have a false sense of the American race relationships. It is often exaggerated. Discrimination here in America is not one sided. Both races discriminate, but we are not exactly declaring war.
Keep in mind that my views of race relations in America are my own, although I know that many others feel the same.
Petrilys,
You quoted me: "You need to come to certain areas of the Black neighborhoods and clean up all of the Black men who do not like to work, beat women, and make a career of fathering children. Get those first, and when you are finished, if you have the energy, get the best of them, the good ones. If you don't start cleaning up soon, I will personally sue you."
What is false about the states of some men I mentioned? It is truth, although I was using sarcasm after the weird things that Ellenvick said to me. I was being sarcastic because I knew that she would not take my challenge. Her intention was to make me jealous. That cannot happen because of the nature of most of the Black male/White female relationships. Most do not last, and a great portion of them in the US do not marry. I get a little edgy when White women get defensive for no reason. They seem to think that all Black women are angry at them because they are with Black men. That is not true. I have no reason to be angry or jealous, but I am concerned.
I do not doubt that a few of such couples actually feel love for each other, but in my area of the US, I see very few marriages occurring between them. Yes, I ask questions when I want to know what I have not experienced. I have talked with many Black (American) men who have given me answers about their encounters with White women. I cannot draw a specific conclusion, but these relationships often do not last. Although some of the White women leave the Black guys, it seems that more men sluff off from the women.
You wrote, "You stated many times in this hub have deep knowledge of the relationship between black men and white women. Experience by having contact with men who has or have had sex with them. Most of the responses focus on how the black man needs the white woman as simply to know the status, she has money, she is more submissive, she will not react if their men to cheat"
Petrilys, I do not know about "deep knowledge," but these are not my reasons. I got them from Black men. Most did not say that dating White women gave them status, but many said as I have written. All Black men do not date White women for these same reasons, but many do. I had no way of experiencing this! I asked. Black men are not doing the chasing alone; the women are chasing, too. Some of these White women are sure of themselves, their abilities to attract Black men, so they are bold. They feel that all they have to do is present themselves to black men. Apparently it works. These last statements came from White women. I am summarizing. I am not being jealous or hating these couples because I see many White women alone with Black men's babies. Why shouldn't that concern me and anyone else? Do you not think that I love White women as well as my own race of women? Disagreeing sometimes, not stating a painful truth does not mean that I am jealous or hating. I cannot describe the state of Blacks all over the world, although I often read about conditions of Blacks in other parts of the world. I read about beauty and ugliness all over the world.
Petrilys, we are from different countries and different cultures. You misunderstand me often and I suppose I misunderstand you some, too. That happens. Understand that it is said that there is an imbalance between the sexes of Black Americans. I do not see it. I have never been in a community where there were not enough Black men for the Black women. Even though some are dating other races, I do not see women waiting in lines. Maybe it is happening somewhere. I know many single Black American women, but most of them have men.
I do not see a need to migrate to Africa. Although America has its problems, it is a nice place for good living if a person is willing to work to make that happen. I love America, and I am not experiencing any direct discrimination. All races discriminate. Giving a choice of world countries, I choose America! When I think about some of the terrible conditions of other countries (mistreatment, even mutilation of women, lack of simple human rights, and others, I shudder. I have worked very hard most of my life, and I am not rich, not by American standards, maybe by others. Nevertheless, my blessings do not come in dollars and cents.
@Levertis Steele If you let me, this one is an extended answer.
You stated many times in this hub have deep knowledge of the relationship between black men and white women. Experience by having contact with men who has or have had sex with them. Most of the responses focus on how the black man needs the white woman as simply to know the status, she has money, she is more submissive, she will not react if their men to cheat.
@Levertis said,
"you need to come to certain areas of the Black neighborhoods and clean up all of the Black men who do not like to work, beat women, and make a career of fathering children. Get those first, and when You are finished, if you have the energy, get the best of them, the good ones. If you don't start cleaning up soon, I will personally sue you."
As I said to James, I understand his point of view but white men also are dating outside, in an equal or larger number. Black men like me were attracted to white women due first eye contact (sexual attraction wise). Who are attracted to someone lonely based in their appearance should at least understand this lines and the qualities of an individual should come closer or after it to be a successful joint.
Additionally, I will not judge anyone based on their actions unless it becomes visible. I have seen good people become professional killers without mercy because of anger or revenge. Black men in the west are targeted as "vile" it's mentioned even at magazines. Although different costumes means different ideologies, considering that few years ago I was a literally a "thug" walking on the streets, all I am going to say is, focus in education while black men are in their pre-teen. You won't see 10% of what you see in poor neighborhood, I guarrant you. Is there interest? Is there social projects in this field? Nope.
@Levertis said,
"Surely you know that Black male and White female coupling affects White men and Black woman."
On a population wise, If united states have over 2 million black women than black men, you should be travelling to african countries, south american countries and/or searching for balance within the current U.S.A ethnic groups. It or then an soft migration should be required in your country. Either way, I'd suggest non married individuals the mentioned above. White men also are in interracial relationship with asians, mixed and blacks as well. Black women want black men for their own, black men, white men, white women, asian men, asian women wants to have diversity in their dating pool. Unbalance would come when people show their sexual affinities. I know plenty of people in relationships with "unwanted" partners.
Poverty wise, investiment in the education for pre-teen blacks is a must. One can make a poor community actually a wonderful place. Unfortunately not all black men thinks like me or support total integration either.
On a "Poverty" viewpoint, I know "poor" people happier than the richer ones. Fact, including myself. Sometimes you just need a simple life, good partner and some recreation to live fully well. I wonder how things worked in Brazil? I mean, dozens of millions of whites and blacks interacting and mixing as mentioned before and you don't really wear about that particular quoted problem. The word racism poor and rich is to prevent it as much as possible. Racism itself is all about it and nothing else.
*leaving you
@Levertis steele, wow, you just sound a lot like James does, very xenophoblic. what is your business questioning two humans dating bacause they are of different skin color? I cannot speak for American black girls as im in Canada and I do not know what is going on there, but being a real African, and coming all the way from Africa, when you say black, I hope you mean the African Aerican women, because their ways do not reflect on African or black women in diaspora. but I am pretty sure there are also honorable black women in the U.S. but I somewhat understand the plight of the black woman. Its not easy to be a minority of the minority. your not only facing hate based on race, but you are also subject to sexism living in a place where everyone thinks they are better than you and living you to prove yourself in the midst of social pride. God helps us all and He is Judge. But questioning and turning your nose up at interracial dating is the height of it.
Petrilys:
You said, "In the end this hub is about white guys and black women talking about someone else's business."
Surely you know that Black male and White female coupling affects White men and Black woman. Although I have not had a lot of encounters with such coupling, I have had some, and I have asked many questions of the ones I know. I also know many Black guys who have dated White girls, and I have questioned them heavily. Information can be gotten from experience, sharing from personal sources, observation of others, research, and main media.
When I enter hubs that are limited to specific commentators, not including myself, I do not comment. Why don't you write a hub about this subject, or a similar one, and ask for comments from specific people only? If I cross it, I will read it, but I won't comment.
In one of your comments you said, "This is the world's reality, levertis. After all my posts if you still believe that black men are DEVIL, re-think TWICE, black woman. It goes for white women too."
Direct me to a post where I said that Black men were devils. Some of my favorite people are Black men. Would you feel better if I stated another truth? Another one is that some Black women need to put a penny between their knees and hold it until they are married. They have too many illegitimate children. As men father children, women have them. That does not mean that other races do not.
Other races have problems, too. Think of the millions of Chinese girls who will never breathe because some were forbidden for not being boys and others for being inside of unmarried mothers. The latter is a way of preventing illegitimate babies, I sadly suppose! Every race has skeletons, but this hub is about Black men and White women.
I will repeat what I wrote some years ago.
" People from different backgrounds fall in love with each other all the time, never mind motives. Sometimes the fact that your beloved is different adds spice to the relationship. Sectarian divides harm society don’t help it at all. Two schools of thought about why we choose our partners, one says you choose someone from your own group who most closely resembles yourself, other school suggest you choose the most opposite you can. To explain this dichotomy you need to look at the society where the lovers come from. If inbred they will choose an outsider, if not the most familiar. In societies where marrying close relatives is common, eg some Muslim societies, there’s a huge amount of congenital disease. Such cultures will die out as a result due to congenital problems, early deaths, feotesus dying in utero or soon after birth or being disabled, unable to procreate due to medical issues. I say don’t impose societal issues on procreation, don’t dictate who can love whom and let the whole human race just get on wih it. "
White women and black men "phenomenon" cannot be categorized as phenomena at all by thinkers. Opposite in the nature attracts, parining and recently is known that they "blend" in the mesh called fabric of space and time. In fact, they do not cancel each other but become one undectable unit. White women and black men "phenomenon" cannot be categorized as phenomena at all by thinkers. Opposite in the nature attracts, pair up and recently is known that they "blend" in the mesh called fabric of space and time. In fact, they do not cancel each other but become one undetectable unit. They also are the only thing to survive inside and nearby black holes. Elementary positive and negative particles that's it. If I were you, I wouldn't be cheered up in condemning opposite to relate. Seems legit.
My personal question is, why black women or white men don't show similar interest? Although Indians and East Asian women resemble black women in color and features, respectively, what black women think about it? White men sure will go after indian or asian before black due racial issues in the United States.
Maybe this is the answer that this hub is looking for.
Kat— Thank you very much for taking the time to visit my article and post your feelings about this sunject. I appreciate your participation in this debate. :D
Petrilys— I see that you came back a few days ago and posted 6 more sets of comments. The problem is that you included 17 outbound links to other people's websites. I would appreciate it if you would go to 17 of other people's websites and post links to this page from their pages. Google lowers my Page Rank for every outbound link but raises for every inbound link.
Anyway, I deleted 3 of your comments that were more links than text of your own thoughts—especially links to nothing more than pictures of black guys with white girls. We have all seen a million of those. I approved your other three sets of comments.
I personally did go to all of the links you provided and I thank you for them.
You wrote that I am "an useless non existent white male in the real game called reality."
I did not like that.
You wrote: "Humans have no clue what is God."
I strongly disagree with that.
Religious— I agree with you wholeheartedly and I appreciate your outstanding remarks. Thank you for visiting and for participating.
Petrilys— I appreciate both of your comments from 4 days back. Thank you for your contributions to our discussion.
Levertis Steele— 4 days ago you came back with some brilliant and poignant comments. Thank you very much for that. You know I always appreciate it when you bring your voice of reason into the conversation.
I want to second your statement: "Let it be known that I love and respect all black, red, white, brown, and yellow men and women."
Amen! Me, too.
You wrote: "If I say that Black men father too many illegitimate children, I am stating a fact, a truth. That does not mean that men of other races do not do it also. I do not say that to stereotype or hate black men; I say that to love black children by stating a truth. . . . I want black men to open their ears and eyes and pull their pants up! I want black men to recognize and become positively involved in the improvement of our communities."
Well said.
I went this morning to Moody Church in Chicago, something I have long wanted to do. It was my first time there and it was great. I was standing in the presence of God. One thing I noticed was that the gentlemen ushers were maybe 1/3 Black and 2/3 White but ALL of them looked about the same: like total gentleman, like true deacons, dressed in fine suits, and their faces shined with the light of glory. Now there were role models for all men to emulate.
I read this article and quit a few of the comments and I still don't get why it was even written. I think a better question for this hub might be why do white men dislike or even care that white women date black men?
@James A Watkins. You act like a saint addressing subjects from broad themes. If you said I'm not black I could doubt for a moment and look at a mirror heh. I respect your view, but you're wrong. People need to learn to live together and its biblical my friend. People started in few spots or one spot in the world and spread live in every corner, we got in extreme situations due people wishing to live their lives. Wars did start many were killed and guys like you still still preach the same thing. I'm not surprized that white people end up manipulated in mass level like a "cult of personality" mentioned in this hub. I saw the video. Easy to control. Black people are very disorganized though. I'd love to see blacks closing the whole africa as a flag and a black continent but I wonder for how long it would last.
PS: Fun moment, my wife is mixed and considered black, though she looks totally white. Levertis husband is, black, second her own speech. In the end this hub is about white guys and black women talking about someone else business.
@James Are you a Christian oO? Please.
One correction dude. People in general are too pick when it comes to unity not only whites of course. Same religion, same interests, same features, same ambitions, same hobbies, same country, same neirborhood same same etc. Something need to be the same. I don't care. I just cannot understand how one single guy want to outspeak every single human stucked in one category. Some of them are in IR between ethnic, races, different countries, costumes, religions etc. If caucasoid humans were developed down europe they had contact with africans and asians. Developed means adapted. You guys are from african race since you've 97-98% of our genome. If everyone thought like you diversty wouldn't have existed to begin with. Therefore I don't care about your opinion at all. I am who I am not a criminal. You are not hittler or Stalin either so I'll take it as personal hate. Have fun
James A Watkins Hub Author 3 days ago
Charles— It is always a pleasure to read your erudite expressions.